Comments on: More "It’s not my fault" McGrady http://www.basketballjohn.com/2008/04/21/more-its-not-my-fault-mcgrady/ All things Utah Jazz - 2006-2007 Northwest Division Champs Fri, 21 Nov 2008 04:16:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Tracy McGrady. Superstar. « Biased Fan http://www.basketballjohn.com/2008/04/21/more-its-not-my-fault-mcgrady/#comment-1209 Tracy McGrady. Superstar. « Biased Fan Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:35:03 +0000 http://www.basketballjohn.com/2008/04/21/more-its-not-my-fault-mcgrady/#comment-1209 [...] by UtesFan89 on April 24, 2008 As seen here, McGrady has taken the “blame others” approach this year. But instead of stopping after [...] […] by UtesFan89 on April 24, 2008 As seen here, McGrady has taken the “blame others” approach this year. But instead of stopping after […]

]]> By: Danielle http://www.basketballjohn.com/2008/04/21/more-its-not-my-fault-mcgrady/#comment-1172 Danielle Tue, 22 Apr 2008 23:20:07 +0000 http://www.basketballjohn.com/2008/04/21/more-its-not-my-fault-mcgrady/#comment-1172 I love how people come to a Jazz blog wanting to pick a fight. Good way to defend yourself Scrum. And apparently the proof is in the pudding. I love how people come to a Jazz blog wanting to pick a fight. Good way to defend yourself Scrum. And apparently the proof is in the pudding.

]]> By: Basketball John http://www.basketballjohn.com/2008/04/21/more-its-not-my-fault-mcgrady/#comment-1170 Basketball John Tue, 22 Apr 2008 22:38:15 +0000 http://www.basketballjohn.com/2008/04/21/more-its-not-my-fault-mcgrady/#comment-1170 Thanks Scrum. I'm as exhausted as McGrady was keeping up with you two. Thanks Scrum. I’m as exhausted as McGrady was keeping up with you two.

]]> By: scrumtrulescent http://www.basketballjohn.com/2008/04/21/more-its-not-my-fault-mcgrady/#comment-1168 scrumtrulescent Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:54:34 +0000 http://www.basketballjohn.com/2008/04/21/more-its-not-my-fault-mcgrady/#comment-1168 Not sure how you got 1.5 out of that, but whatever. You're a good Rockets fan/McGrady fan for defending them, but I'm sure you'll agree that this "debate" has grown tiresome (especially since we're talking about game 1.) I think I'm right, you think I'm wrong, so we can leave it at that. If you want to comment further, email me from my blog (yes, I see you visited.) We don't need to take up any more space here. PS I'm pretty sure that TrueHoop was pointing to the post as a whole, and not just my comments. This site has been linked to a couple times by Abbott (and others), Basketball John is no slouch. Not sure how you got 1.5 out of that, but whatever. You’re a good Rockets fan/McGrady fan for defending them, but I’m sure you’ll agree that this “debate” has grown tiresome (especially since we’re talking about game 1.) I think I’m right, you think I’m wrong, so we can leave it at that. If you want to comment further, email me from my blog (yes, I see you visited.) We don’t need to take up any more space here.

PS I’m pretty sure that TrueHoop was pointing to the post as a whole, and not just my comments. This site has been linked to a couple times by Abbott (and others), Basketball John is no slouch.

]]> By: nonsequitter http://www.basketballjohn.com/2008/04/21/more-its-not-my-fault-mcgrady/#comment-1167 nonsequitter Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:35:17 +0000 http://www.basketballjohn.com/2008/04/21/more-its-not-my-fault-mcgrady/#comment-1167 My response 1. Uhh, are you telling me that there was NO double teaming of T-Mac whatsoever? If that is the case, then I have wasted quite a bit of time with you. There were probably 4 or 5 occasions in the 4th quarter where his defender was getting help. I'm not sure how you define that up in SLC, but down here we call that double teaming. 2. Yes, we've exhausted the Korver 3s. 3. That may have not been his decision. In fact, Adelman's offense doesn't do a lot of running without the ball. I saw that with JVG some, but I didn't see a whole lot of calls for T-Mac to run cuts off double screens on the baseline and pop out for a quick catch and shoot all season long. Again, thats not on him if the play isn't called for. I think his increased minutes might have something to do with this not being in the playbook. A guy who does a lot of running a la Reggie Miller, won't play 45 minutes a game because it takes a lot out of you. I'm speculating, but its not untrue that the Rockets didn't run that type of offense all year long. 4. You're probably right. I didn't see it. 1 1/2 out of 4 ain't bad, Scrum. Doesn't merit a hit from True Hoop, but its gold for your standards. My response

1. Uhh, are you telling me that there was NO double teaming of T-Mac whatsoever? If that is the case, then I have wasted quite a bit of time with you. There were probably 4 or 5 occasions in the 4th quarter where his defender was getting help. I’m not sure how you define that up in SLC, but down here we call that double teaming.

2. Yes, we’ve exhausted the Korver 3s.

3. That may have not been his decision. In fact, Adelman’s offense doesn’t do a lot of running without the ball. I saw that with JVG some, but I didn’t see a whole lot of calls for T-Mac to run cuts off double screens on the baseline and pop out for a quick catch and shoot all season long. Again, thats not on him if the play isn’t called for. I think his increased minutes might have something to do with this not being in the playbook. A guy who does a lot of running a la Reggie Miller, won’t play 45 minutes a game because it takes a lot out of you. I’m speculating, but its not untrue that the Rockets didn’t run that type of offense all year long.

4. You’re probably right. I didn’t see it.

1 1/2 out of 4 ain’t bad, Scrum. Doesn’t merit a hit from True Hoop, but its gold for your standards.

]]> By: scrumtrulescent http://www.basketballjohn.com/2008/04/21/more-its-not-my-fault-mcgrady/#comment-1166 scrumtrulescent Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:21:25 +0000 http://www.basketballjohn.com/2008/04/21/more-its-not-my-fault-mcgrady/#comment-1166 Just for good measure, I'd like to defend my original comment. You say that it is crap, lies, etc., but the only thing you have refuted (although only partly) is that he got lost on <b>both</b> threes when it was really only the first. 1. He wasn't double-teamed (at all, in my opinion) but even if he was, it wasn't enough to merit him complaining about it. 2. The Korver threes, which we went over 3. Staying around the three point line while the offense was run through someone else (no off the ball movement/screens). It might not mean anything, but that doesn't make it false. 4. Passing up a sure layup/dunk/freethrows to pass to Jackson who immediately shot a contested 3 (don't try to defend this one, it was in the 3rd Q and KK isn't the strongest of defenders) Just for good measure, I’d like to defend my original comment. You say that it is crap, lies, etc., but the only thing you have refuted (although only partly) is that he got lost on both threes when it was really only the first.

1. He wasn’t double-teamed (at all, in my opinion) but even if he was, it wasn’t enough to merit him complaining about it.

2. The Korver threes, which we went over

3. Staying around the three point line while the offense was run through someone else (no off the ball movement/screens). It might not mean anything, but that doesn’t make it false.

4. Passing up a sure layup/dunk/freethrows to pass to Jackson who immediately shot a contested 3 (don’t try to defend this one, it was in the 3rd Q and KK isn’t the strongest of defenders)

]]> By: nonsequitter http://www.basketballjohn.com/2008/04/21/more-its-not-my-fault-mcgrady/#comment-1165 nonsequitter Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:07:45 +0000 http://www.basketballjohn.com/2008/04/21/more-its-not-my-fault-mcgrady/#comment-1165 There was some double teaming going on. Not a lot but more than in the first 3 quarters. Look at the other posessions he had the ball at the top of the 3 point line. Almost everytime he tried to create, Jazz defenders collapsed to the lane. Tracy had nowhere to go. I will say this, he looked gassed. That is not an excuse. If you are a superstar, then you have to find the energy and he was lacking it in the 4th quarter. Still, he had nowhere to go. He had to settle. There was some double teaming going on. Not a lot but more than in the first 3 quarters. Look at the other posessions he had the ball at the top of the 3 point line. Almost everytime he tried to create, Jazz defenders collapsed to the lane. Tracy had nowhere to go.

I will say this, he looked gassed. That is not an excuse. If you are a superstar, then you have to find the energy and he was lacking it in the 4th quarter.

Still, he had nowhere to go. He had to settle.

]]> By: scrumtrulescent http://www.basketballjohn.com/2008/04/21/more-its-not-my-fault-mcgrady/#comment-1163 scrumtrulescent Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:02:03 +0000 http://www.basketballjohn.com/2008/04/21/more-its-not-my-fault-mcgrady/#comment-1163 there you go with your comparisons again... and no they wouldn't, just like the Rockets won't against the Jazz. there you go with your comparisons again…

and no they wouldn’t, just like the Rockets won’t against the Jazz.

]]> By: scrumtrulescent http://www.basketballjohn.com/2008/04/21/more-its-not-my-fault-mcgrady/#comment-1162 scrumtrulescent Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:00:56 +0000 http://www.basketballjohn.com/2008/04/21/more-its-not-my-fault-mcgrady/#comment-1162 Please do, please explain why Tracy complained of double-teaming when there was none (which, believe it or not, was the whole point of this thread to begin with.) I've got the game footage if you'd like it. Hope to see you here again after game 3. Please do, please explain why Tracy complained of double-teaming when there was none (which, believe it or not, was the whole point of this thread to begin with.) I’ve got the game footage if you’d like it.

Hope to see you here again after game 3.

]]> By: nonsequitter http://www.basketballjohn.com/2008/04/21/more-its-not-my-fault-mcgrady/#comment-1161 nonsequitter Tue, 22 Apr 2008 20:52:42 +0000 http://www.basketballjohn.com/2008/04/21/more-its-not-my-fault-mcgrady/#comment-1161 Its obvious you're deflecting. You still haven't answered my question. Had Lebron James been missing Delonte West and Ilgauskus, would Cleveland win a series against the Jazz; much less a single game? Its obvious you’re deflecting.

You still haven’t answered my question. Had Lebron James been missing Delonte West and Ilgauskus, would Cleveland win a series against the Jazz; much less a single game?

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